When planning your new kitchen design, one of the first considerations about units that you’ll need to make is regarding the corner unit. Always start planning from the corner and decide on what type of corner unit you are going to have, to help you make the most of all your kitchen space.
Get the planning wrong and you’ll end up having to store things in the back of the corner unit that even a contortionist would have problems getting them back out again!
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This is a short kitchen planning video, which explains how to plan your kitchen with a straight corner unit. The video also covers corner posts and service voids, which are essential in the planning of your kitchen, as they all take up space in your kitchen run.
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Hi there, is it possible to get an 800mm corner base unit with a 400mm wide door rather than a 300mm wide door? I know the blanking panel is always 500mm but our kitchen is a narrow u shape with an archway at the top of the U meaning that the top of the U has an extra 20cm of depth compared to the side walls. We’d like to have an in-built oven at the top of the U in between two corner base units with filler panels to join each side, but given we have extra depth we don’t need the narrow 300mm doors. Could we adapt this ourselves if we ordered the corner units dry assembled and bought additional 400mm wide doors? Thanks.
Hi, it’s not possible to get an 800mm wide corner base unit with a 400mm wide door i’m afraid. You would need to order a 900mm wide corner base, that comes with a 400mm wide door. If you request the unit dry assembled then you would need to cut 100mm off the end and reconstruct it to fit into the space that you have. If you need anymore advice on this then our sales team will be able to help on 01977 608 418.
Might be a silly question, but would it be possible to have a 900 Le Mans unit with a 550 or 600 door, to increase the void area? We really would like this unit, but the waste pipe runs in that corner.
Best Regards,
Anja
Hi Aanj, the blanking panel of a corner unit is always 500mm, so if you wanted a 600mm wide door on a Le mans unit, they you would need to choose the 1100mm wide version.
So, just to recap, 500mm blanking panel and a 600mm door = a 1100mm wide Le mans units. But, the total space needed in our kitchen run for this unit is 1230mm (130mm for the service void, which allows for a corner post of 70mm x 70mm). The service void area always remains the same, it is the size of the door that make the unit bigger or smaller in width.
If you have not already read them, then these articles on service voids and corner posts will be useful reads.
The waste pipe is 240 by 240, that’s why I was wondering if this could be custom changed on a 900 unit. Guess not then. 🙁 thanks for your answer.
Hi,
Will a 900 L Corner fit through a 730mm doorway gap , eg with legs removed and it turned sideways ?
Hi Simon, speaking from personal experience, no, the unit will not fit through any standard door in a house. The L of the unit makes it very difficult to maneuver through any doorway. You will need to request the unit to come dry assembled, so that you can take it apart to get it into your home. The only way people get around this is if they have double patio doors that lead straight into the kitchen.
It doesnt need to be maneuvered just carried straight through the doorway so if the legs can be easily removed what would the dimensions be ? Eg I could carry through a box 900 x 900 x 730 is it bigger than that ?
Hi, in theory, if you had a gap that was 730mm wide and the unit had no feet or leg bosses on the bottom or any packaging on it whatsoever, then you would be able to get it through the 730mm opening with 2 people carrying it. You would need to speak to our sales team on 01977 608 418 to see if they can supply the unit without the leg bosses on for you as these are drilled in and glued into position on all our units.
Hi,
We are looking to fit a base corner Le Mans 2 unit, 1000mm, with an oven on the other side of the corner.
Would it be sufficient to use a 70mm corner post, with a 130mm void behind the unit?
Is it at all possible to have a smaller void/corner post to fit our space better?
In addition, we plan to have a double layer of wall units. However the bottom wall unit isn’t the same as the top unit in the corner, as the same selection was unavailable. On the bottom we have an 600mm L Corner Wall Unit, and on the top a 300mm Single Wall Unit and a 600mm Corner Wall Unit.
How can we best make these match up?
If there is no corner post (so it matches with L shaped corner unit underneath), how much would this restrict the doors?
Thank you
Hi Maya, the corner post/service void can be made smaller but you need to be mindful that the smaller this is, the greater the chances are that handles can clash when the door is opened.
This article talks about corner wall units. You will need a corner post, made out of door material filler, for the 600mm corner wall unit and the 300mm single wall unit.
If you need any further assistance with this then our sales team will be able to help on 01977 608 418.
Hi
I am planning my kitchen and wanted pull out bin unit as sink base, but I cannot find among the options. Is there any way to incorporate double sink base with pullout bin?
Thanks!
Hi Liz, there are no sink units available that have bins fitted in them. Bins require a lot, if not most of the space in the base unit. A sink also has many pipes that require a lot of space too and the bottom of the sink also dips into the unit. We do give the option to buy the actual bins separately. Once your sink is in place, you’ll be able to see how much space is left and whether you could fit a bin in there – https://www.diy-kitchens.com/accessories/waste-systems/
hi,
In the above video it states you do an 850mm standard corner unit but I cannot find it in the unit list. Do you still supply this size and is it available in the Luca gloss style?
Hi Heidi, this unit is no longer available on our website. Occasionally there are unit reviews and ones that are not popular or used are removed to make way for other units.
Could you please tell me the diagonal measurement of an L shaped corner unit, so that I can check that it would fit through my door frame?
Hi, the diagonal distance from end point to end point would be 850-860mm plus packaging.
Hi,
I am trying to figure out what corner/wall units I need. The kitchen will have a large American Fridge to fit in, I was thinking a pull out larder (2300mm size) to the left side as you look at it to tie into a top box unit that then links to the next row of wall/base cupboards. I have a couple of things I would like to check;
– If the fridge is 1790mm tall would the taller 2300mm larder be suitable to tie in the top box unit?
– I have received an error when adding 720mm wall cupboards must I go for the 900mm high ones for the wall units?
– Finally the wall units include a corner cupboard, you don’t seem to stock an L shape corner in a 900mm, they appear as a standard corner cupboard, in this sense do I order this and an additional 300mm cupboard to create the L shape I am after. With these standard corner units how do I tell if the if the blank panel side is on the right or left?
Many Thanks
Heather
Hi,
We usually recommend the 290mm high top boxes for an American fridge freezer around 1780mm tall with 1970mm (2120mm with legs) tall units and 720mm high wall units. A 2120mm tall unit minus a 290mm high top box, leaves 1830mm. Take away your 1790mm fridge/freezer will leave a gap of around 40mm at the top.
If you would like more of a gap at the top or a taller top box then you may need to go for the 2150mm (2300mm with legs) tall units and the 900mm tall wall units.
With regards to the L shaped wall unit, they are only available in 600mm wide versions. If you wanted to create a 900mm corner shape, you would need 1 x 900mm corner wall unit, which is 300mm deep. To get a symmetrical 900mm corner, you would need to put a 600mm wide wall unit next to the side of the 900mm corner unit with the blanking panel. This will give you a corner with the effect of 2 x 600mm units (597mm doors).
Blanking panel sides are selectable when you click the “Unit Details” button for the wall unit.
I hope this helps.
Hi,
I am looking to have 2 900mm corner le mans units either side of a range oven in a narrow U shaped kitchen. I understand the service void is designed to get the corner post to sit 560mm from the wall to line with perpendicular units, but how would that work with a range oven that is deeper? say 608mm without handles. Are the doors going to open properly or if so clash with oven handles. Do you have to increase the void?
Thanks
Hi, if the oven is going to protrude, you would need to leave a larger service void to ensure the doors line up with the appliance as the corner posts create the void area for the doors to open but if this is not in line with the oven then the doors would clash.
Hi there,
I am currently planning to purchase a kitchen from yourselves . Can you recommend a good kitchen fitter in Northampton .
Thankyou.
Kind regards
Ann
Hi, we don’t know of any recommended fitters in Northampton but this site should be able to help you – https://www.trustatrader.com/
Dose a magic corner unit negate the need for a corner post. I’m struggling to fit three 600mm units and two corner units into a 2980 width kitchen!
Hi, you still need a corner post with a magic corner I’m afraid.
So even with a magic corner you need a corner post, but reading your instructions you can cut the post to 40mm? Is this the minimum with a handle-less kitchen range?
Hi, magic corners do need a corner post. Speaking from personal experience, my corner post only measures 37mm on one side and I just about got away with it, as I have a Luca kitchen with no handles:-) You will be OK with 40mm on 1 side.
Hi,
We’ve ordered the Le mans2 corner base unit. Do you know the load bearing weight of each tray please?
Hi, the Le Mans unit can hold up 25kg per shelf.
Hi
We would like a 1000mm Carousel corner unit. This would need to fit around a soil pipe which is 160mm x 210mm. Is it possible to cut away the back left corner of the corner unit without affecting the carousel mechanism?
Thanks
Hi, this would be fine with how the mechanism is designed. The back left corner is void and approx 150mm space advised.
Do you need a service void if installing the internal curved Luca Gloss corner base unit? This is not represented on the kitchen planner?
Hi, you don’t need a service void on any L-shape corner unit.
what angle does the door have to open for the Le mans mechanism to fully open? I’m trying to fit into a very tight space and the door opening beyond 90 degrees is difficult to plan.
many thanks
The door needs to open to at least 90 degrees, more is preferable but you can still access the mechanism at 90 degrees.
I’m planning on having a 950mm corner (sink) unit with an adjacent set of 300 or 400mm draws. Can you tell me what the total distance the draws (including Norton draw fronts) pull out to as want to see if they will hit the sink unit door handle.
Also are the 560mm depths given without doors present as I am thing to sort out the need for a corner unit between the sink and draws. As such does the corner post sit proud on the blanking plate or do I just use one section of the corner post joining sink unit to draws to give clearance.
Many thanks
Simon
You need to order a corner post this creates enough space for the door/drawers to open without the handles clashing.
The depths of the base units are 560mm, without doors.
The blanking plate is moved backwards so that the corner post can fit in. The article below talks about corner posts that you might find useful.
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/customer-questions/what-are-kitchen-corner-posts-and-why-are-they-needed/
We would ideally like a 60cm induction hob with a 60cm downdraft extractor behind it. Is this possible using a corner unit measuring 1000 as in the plan on the front of your planning tool booklets, and can you fit a 600 drawer pack below it?
Hi, the hob sits over either a drawer pack or normal highline unit and the downdraft needs to be installed into a separate unit behind it, these are usually at least 300mm deep but this will vary depending on what the total depth is required for the extractor.
Hi i have a question about the corner posts, i understand that we have to leave the 130mm void to allow for the corner post and its aligning with whatever unit you decide to fix to it however when the corner post is in place will there be a small void between the blanking panel and the adjoining unit? thus making width measurement wider?
Hi, corner units including the void and corner post always measure 130mm longer than the size of the unit and rather than 560 deep as standard with a corner post fitted they will measure 630 including a 70mm corner post.
If you view the image below, this shows the additional depth of the corner, which does measure 70mm.
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/customer-questions/corner-base-unit-no-return/
With a base unit 560 deep and the 70mm corner post, do you do a 630 x 630 corner wall unit so that the adjacent unit doors match the base unit doors or do I need to use infil panels.
Hi, we do not make a 630×630 corner wall unit. You would need to use 600×600 with fillers.
Hi
I have another question. I want a boiler + consumer unit housing for my new kitchen. They are on top of each other and therefore I need a 1200/1300 tall x 600 wide wall cabinet to cover the lot.
Currently in my cart, I have added a mid-height, slimline base cabinet (1250mm tall) which seems the ideal size for it. Is it possible to use this cabinet as a wall cabinet (provided I remove the legs of course!)? I guess being originally a base unit, the J groove (We want Lucas White doors) is at the top, can I simply put in the comment section to install the door upside down to have it at the bottom? Or is it simpler to just install the whole cabinet upside down and order it with hinges on the opposite side (so left if I want right in my case)?
Or is it possible to simply order a door (1250×600) and some carcass material and let my fitter construct the cabinet himself (which he is prepared to do anyway)? Note that from your website, I cannot just add a door to my cart…
Hi, the easiest solution would be to order the door separately and the carcase material and build up on site. If you email your shopping cart id to (sales@diy-kitchens.com) with your request, then we can add the required door to your online shopping cart.
Hi,
I am planning to do my kitchen soon and it will have a corner between a standard corner and a slimline unit (300mm).
I already know that I can order a custom corner based on an 800mm cabinet with 400 door and 400 blank. That still leaves me with a 100mm gap on the blank side of the corner unit (which is quite a fair bit) and the corner infill in the range I am interested in only comes in 70mmx70mm (Lucas White) anyway. What would you advice? Is it possible to have a larger corner infill? Is it possible to install the slimline unit off the wall (using wood battens between unit and wall) to make it appear a bit deeper? Should I order my corner with a 450mm door and 350mm blank (if that is possible)?
Kind regards
Hi, if you were positioning a full depth unit with a slimline, your options would be –
** the corner unit will still require a void from the unit to the wall effectively making the corner unit 900 wide not 800. You could either make a 200mm filler to cover 200mm of the blank panel at 400mm this would allow you to set the slimline unit against the wall.
** alternatively you could just bring the slimline off the wall 200mm but this would make the overall depth 500mm meaning it will only be 60mm shallower than a standard unit
Hi,
Thank you for your quick reply.
Just a quick question: Why is it necessary to leave 100mm between corner unit and wall ? What is that space for?
Regards
It is a service void gap (usually for sink waste pipes etc) and it’s also needed to push the unit out so that you can fit a corner post. If the unit was flush against the wall you would have problems. The blanking panels are usually 500mm. The units in the adjacent kitchen run have a depth of 560mm + 20mm door. Unless you have that service void, units in the other run will jut out too much and you would never be able to open the door properly on the unit with the service void.
This article below and the images on the page will be able to explain things better.
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/customer-questions/what-is-a-kitchen-unit-service-void/
I hope this helps
Hi
Thanks for the reply.
I am intending to use 300mm deep unit in the other run (as mentionned in original question) and there will be no pipes going in that part of the kitchen. I suppose I can move the corner unit right in the corner?
Regards
Hi I live in northern California. Where can I purchase the Revo 90 .
Matt
Hi, we are based in the UK and I am not sure where you can obtain one of these units local to you in the California. The site below may be of some use.
http://www.kesseboehmer.com/en/company-divisions/kitchen-furnishings-equipment/corner-cabinets/revo-90/
Hi
I am fitting a hob into the corner using diagon 900 x 900 corner unit next to a dishwasher on on one side and a pull out larder on the other. Do I need to use fillers to allow the door to open, and if so, what type of filler and are they needed on both sides of the unit.
Thanks
Hi, we would advise using a 22 degree corner post but it would be dependent on the kitchen style, if you could let us know the kitchen range and give us a call on 01977 608 418 then we can advise if we can make one.
Hi,
I have finally made a decision to go ahead and replace my kitchen however the corner units I want only come the hinge on one side and then hinged again in the middle. I was looking for the doors to meet in the middle so the hinges would be on the left and the right. Do you do anything like this? I need it both for the base & wall units.
Many thanks,
Marieta
Hi,
Most of the Innova range units could be adapted to suit your requirements. Please contact the sales team on 01977 608 418 to enquire about the unit and the style of door that you wish to use.
Hi,
I am planning on replacing my kitchen and was wondering if you knew a decent fitter in Leicester?
Many thanks,
Marieta
Hi, the only kitchen fitters that have been recommended by our customers are listed on the page below.
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/kitchen-tips/recommended-kitchen-fitters/
Hello, we are designing a U shape kitchen, it has a Center of 2200mm for cooker hood and hob. Please can you advice how to fit 2 corner units, an oven integrated unit and 2 small pull our lader units? Can the lader pull out bespoke to 200mm instead of 150mm? Thank you.
Hi,
The page below shows how to plan a kitchen corner unit:
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/customer-questions/plan-kitchen-corners/
An integrated oven fits inside an oven housing unit, examples can be seen below.
https://www.diy-kitchens.com/kitchen-units/base/appliance-housing/
With regards to the 2 small pull out units, the wirework pull outs are only available in 150mm & 300mm.
I hope this helps.
The video on corner fitting has no audio – Can you fix this?
Hi,
This video does not have audio, it is just a demonstration of the corner units available with sizes shown.
Thank you for your reply. It is difficult deciding! Could you tell me what material Remo Elm is, as it doesn’t actually say!
Thanks
Hi,
The Remo Elm door is a modern handleless MDF foil wrapped door with a wood grain effect.
Hi
Please could you tell me which finishes are most hard wearing? I’m puzzled by foil wrapped/painted/laquered MDF etc! I really want a flush door in wood but this doesn’t seem possible?? What is the Remo Elm ? as this is the only one that doesn’t state what material it is.
I need something very robust as we have a farmhouse kitchen with stroppy teenagers, dogs, boisterous toddlers and an hysterical chef (me). I would really appreciate some advice! Thanks.
Hi,
All our doors are hardwearing but if you wanted a completely solid wood door (not MDF/MFC) then you would need to choose something like a solid oak (i.e. Linwood or Broadoak Natural).
The pages below may be able to give you some more advice on the door manufacturing processes to aid in your final decision.
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/customer-questions/can-you-explain-what-the-kitchen-door-materials-are/
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/customer-questions/kitchen-doors-style-vs-cost/
I need to order my kitchen asap but I’m stumped with how I want my corner to be. I really want a tall l shaped larder unit and you don’t offer these or the standard blank corner units. Would you be able to build a bespoke piece especially if I went for your harewood kitchen which you make. Other kitchen designers can offer a standard blank unit but then talk about creating a corner post from panel ends which my fitter is worried will look bodged. Wickes do a great mondo 2m carousel corner unit – could you do something similar. Your base revo unit is the same idea but too short. I look forward to hearing from you.
Hi, if you can give our Sales Team a call on 01977 608 418 and mention what you require, they will see if a bespoke unit can be made for you or not.
Can you supply doors for an integrated dishwasher? We cannot find these on the website.
Thanks
Hi,
You can find appliance doors here. https://www.diy-kitchens.com/kitchen-units/appliance-doors/
I live in the Warrington area and am looking to get a kitchen fitted. Do you have a list of local kitchen fitters who would be familiar with your products
Thank you
Hi Matthew, I have sent you an email.
If you have handleless doors, a 900mm corner unit and an integrated undercounter fridge opening with its hinges to the corner, is it possible to get away without a corner post?
Hi, you would still need some form of corner post as the door still needs to open, which requires at least 2 cm for a wood unit door. The thickness of the integrated fridge door would be the bare minimum that you need to ensure that that fridge door can open fully.
Hi,
1) Do the same storage systems exist for wall corner units; and 2) do wall corner units also need a corner post where the units meet?
Many thanks
Hi, the storage system wire works are only available for base units due to the 560mm depth needed to house them. Corner wall units do not require a corner post but if you are arranging 2 wall units that meet in the corner then some form of post or filler material may be required to allow the doors to open properly.
Hi
I live in the Birmingham area – could you recommend a local kitchen fitter please?
Hi,
I have sent you an email.
Hi
Your corner unit video is really good but what options do you have if you want to start in a corner with a tall unit and want units on both sides of that. The only option I can see is the tall corner larder unit.. do you have any ideas please?
Hi, we do recommend that you start with and put a corner unit into a corner. Corner units give you the space for service voids and for corner posts. You could contact our technical sales team on 01977 608 418 if you have and questions regarding this.
I’m interested in the L-Shape cabinet with the revo 90 mechanism. I noticed in the video it states that the unit is 18mm higher to accommodate the mechanism and that the plinth and feet are adjusted to deal with this.
Can you please confirm that normal units will still fit up against this without any major adjustment? I can’t quite work out how you won’t be able to see a step of 18mm at the bottom of the unit where the lower plinth joins with the standard ones at each side.
thanks
Hi Andy,
Good question. All the units butt up and the same size plinth is used, but a slight segment is taken out of the plinth to accommodate the Revo 90 unit. See the image below which shows a unit that has been fitted in one of our customers’ kitchen and how the plinth has been adapted.
Great, thanks for the quick response, very helpful!
Hi I’d like a 900 magic corner unit with a 400 door and 500 blank like in the video. Do you do these as I cant find it when I try and order a magic corner.
Thanks
Nick
Hi,
Due to the wirework mechanism inside the kitchen unit, the smallest unit of this type that we can make is 950mm wide.
I live in the Bournemouth area . Do you have lists of reputable kitchen fitters in the area? Also can an order be placed and units held and delivered when kitchen alerations are completed?
Hi,
I have sent you an email with the answers to your questions.
Hi,
Having looked at a number of potential plans for the kitchen, the one that works best in the space has a 870mm custom corner unit. Is it possible for the fitter to reduce a dry assembled 900 X 900 L Shaped Corner Base Unit (With Shelf) from the back to make it fit the 870mm depth space?
I know you should always start at the corner, but in this case having a 900 unit would throw the rest of the run of units out.
Hi Alex,
Certain styles of units can be adapted and we can make custom bespoke units in certain styles only. If you can send an email to our Sales Manager (matt@diy-kitchens.com) he’ll be able to tell you what is possible.
Hi i am looking at a new kitchen but have a question about corner units, specifically the magic corner unit, if the blind corner is 500mm but the thickness of the adjacent unit is 560mm(pan draw sink unit) do i need to account fot a 60mm gap on the wall or more? How much extra for the service crevice and handles of the draws?
Hi,
I have created a page today regarding service voids. This should hopefully give you all the information that you need.
https://advice.diy-kitchens.com/information/what-is-a-kitchen-unit-service-void/
I hope this helps
Hi using your dry pack option how do you order a right to left door opening and a left to right door opening of the same type unit .
Thanks
Hi Jim,
When ordering our units dry assembled, you would need to drill the doors and fit your own hinges to ensure that everything lines up once you have assembled them.
Hi,
My daughter is looking to have a new kitchen, but has la large soil pipe in one corner (19x19cm). What is your recommendation for a corner base and wall unit for this corner ?
Regards,
Bryan.
Hi Bryan,
Thanks for your email
All our base units have a 42mm service void behind them and unfortunately we don’t have anything that would accommodate 190mm x 190mm. If you order a base unit dry assembled then you would need to make some modifications for it to fit. This would be a good example of a corner unit that could be modified. Half the unit would be hidden away and so would half of your pipe.
https://www.diy-kitchens.com/kitchen-units/corner-base/900mm-wide-highline-corner-base-unit/wp1000449/
With regards to our wall units, these do not have any service voids and you would struggle to get a wall unit from anywhere that would fit around a pipe of that size.
We do have something called a boiler housing that you may be able to use to help conceal the pipe on the wall, but you would need to modify this unit.
https://www.diy-kitchens.com/kitchen-units/wall/standard/600mm-special-wall-unit—900mm-high-increased-dimensions-suitable-for-boiler-housing/wp10322/
If you boxed the pipe in then the only visible bit would be between the bottom of the wall unit and the top of the work surface, which would also need adapting to fit.
I hope this helps
The video showing corner units was silent
Do you know of any good fitters around Edinburgh area?
Hi, I’ve sent you an email.